Gozu Interview with Douglas Sherman
Posted in Features on June 10th, 2026 by JJ KoczanDouglas Sherman — one of the two founding guitarists of Gozu, bar/restauranteur and co-owner of The Hollows in Boston (if you go, make sure you order a The Obelisk Dark & Stormy), horror aficionado and all around wonderful guy — is currently on tour supporting his band’s new album, VI (review here). Their third full-length to see issue through Metal Blade Records imprint Blacklight Media, it is also their first LP in 13 years to be helmed by producer Benny Grotto at Mad Oak Studios.
I don’t know if ‘Gozu x Mad Oak‘ counts as a reunion, or a reboot or what, but their return to those hallowed halls of Boston underground rock comes after a succession of three albums — 2016’s Revival (review here), 2018’s Equilibrium (review here) and 2023’s Remedy (review here) — with Dean Baltulonis at Wild Arctic Studio in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, who
helped them bring out the sense of charge that typified their work during that time. Sherman, guitarist/vocalist/bringer-of-the-funk Marc Gaffney, bassist/roller-of-groove Joe Grotto and now-former drummer Seth Botos hitting Mad Oak is a noteworthy return, and the breadth of tone and overarching warmth throughout VI is a perfect demonstration of why the pairing worked so well on Gozu‘s first two LPs, 2010’s Locust Season (review here) and 2013’s The Fury of a Patient Man (review here).
Listening to the record, I was curious as to what prompted the return — spoiler alert: the operational convenience of not taking the band from Boston to Portsmouth was a factor — and as it had been a while, wanted to chat with Doug about its making and the band’s latest doings in general. Last year you might’ve seen them supporting Baroness or touring with The Obsessed and Howling Giant. In addition to the touring they’ll do throughout the second half of 2026, you might catch them next January at Planet Desert Rock Weekend VII in Las Vegas, as I also hope very much to do.
What follows was recorded just as the band was making ready to head out on the current run. Thanks for reading.
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Gozu Interview with Douglas Sherman – May 22, 2026
How are you feeling about starting the work again of supporting a new record?
I feel great. I love the video. I love the new album. I’m pretty psyched about it. I think this is definitely, for me personally, one of my faves in terms of how it came about, in terms of what was going on in our lives to actually crank this out. It’s just a little bit more raw and aggressive, you know. Let’s say it again.
Tell me about that. What was going on?
Well, I think there’s a lot. Bands are are funny, funny organisms, and depending on what’s going on in everyone’s life is depends on what kind of album comes out. Nowadays, especially with everything outside of of our personal lives, how insane the world is, and just how everyone’s tried to navigate life in general, to try to find like little seeds of positivity to get through the day. At least on my end, it’s hard to get four people nowadays together — since Covid into this administration — to do something positive together, and those forces that are outside affect people that are in the band, and that affects what happens, when you try to write, or you try to do something creative, and we were just fortunate enough to kind of crank through all that.
We didn’t really overthink it too much, so I feel like it was a little bit easier than past, but also we just had a good, good crop of tunes, and I’m always writing, and Gaff is always writing, and so it wasn’t anything short of material, it was just what was, what was going to make sense for the, for this album in particular, to to showcase what was exactly going on, and then at that, at one point, while we were writing, I decided to, in this, in this economy, decided to become a partner in a restaurant, in a bar, and, and so, as I, yeah, so not only am I in a band that’s, not making money, I have a restaurant that’s, trying to make money right now, so it’s like two…
A litany of terrible fiscal decisions.
Yeah, so it’s it’s fun. So my whole life is pretty much I wake up and everything’s on fire and I’m trying to trying to figure out how to navigate it. But it is fun. I love jumping into this venture of owning a restaurant, but also it’s geared towards a lot of like stuff that we’re all into, like music, and so kind of like it coincides with everything, so just getting that rolling, and then getting the album together, was a lot of pressure. And then we, we went with Benny Grotto, who did, Locust Season, the first one, and I think half the second one, of Fury, and we wanted to get back to those roots, and to something familiar.
We weren’t going to something that was unknown. We just wanted everything to be comfortable when we went in there to record, and I think the product was good, also Seth, at that point, decided he was leaving the band on good terms. Everything was fine. It was personal stuff, and it’s tough being in a band. You know, it’s not easy. And so he was on his way out, but he wanted to do the album, which was awesome. And we love him to death. And it’s very commendable and honorable that, he did that and killed it. We had this limited timeline, a person leaving, personal stuff going on in my life, and Gaff’s life, and everyone else’s life, like anything.
And so, long story short, this is what came out of it, and I think it kind of represents everything. We still have those kind of like roots in desert rock/stoner rock stuff, but also we have a little bit more of a, I don’t know if it’s a harder edge, but just more, more aggressive, but also, focusing on melody, which is number one with us in choruses, and how to create courses, and like how to actually do that, because it’s hard, you know. We could sit around, just do whatever, and just kind of like come up with anything, but we’re still trying to figure out how to actually write a good pop tune, and it’s hard.
You mentioned starting being partner in a restaurant, starting The Hollows. I was going to ask if that’s going to change the being on tour for you, waking up and still having to put out those fires every day.
No, because I’m going partnered with my girlfriend and another partner, and so I’ll be connected to all of them, and plus I have security cameras where I can be yelling at bartenders over text: put that money back, stop drinking on the job, that kind of thing. But yeah, no, it’ll be the same. It’s a lot, and it’s a lot of work, that’s all I can say, and I have a lot of respect for people who do that kind of stuff, and now more than ever, but yeah, no, it’d be the same, and the beauty of technology is you can tour and work from the van, which is pretty much what everybody does right now. A lot of jobs are so easy, to have that luxury of getting in the van and during the day, do work, and then at night play and that’s kind of how it is.
What new songs are in the set?
Good question. We have six off the new one, so that “Corinthian Leatherface,” “They Did Know Karate,” “Midnight Express.” Fuck. The name situation is still — we’re still trying to remember the names, because they’ve changed so many times, and they’re all fucking all over the place. So, six of the newest ones, and then we have a bunch of old stuff, and it’s kind of cool, because I’m not used to at this point being like, oh shit, we’ve been doing this for a while now, but we have these kind of tunes that we haven’t played before that are cool but we’re not doing this time. I think the next run we’ll do a lot of like older stuff, and it’s kind of getting that weird point where it’s like, pull up the hits, or like, do stuff we haven’t done before and that kind of thing. So it’s kind of weird, but it’s an hour set we have geared for, so it kind of runs the gamut of everything, plus these new six songs. This will be the first time we’re touring and playing like the majority of the new album, so I’m really, really psyched about that, just to push it and stuff.
How did co-headlining with Restless Spirit come about?
I love them. I think this is a good pairing. When I was working at the Middle East bartending, I saw them play a bunch of times, and I’ve always talked to a them about potentially doing a tour, and like that kind of thing. It’s always been, yeah, we’ll get together, but their manager, if I remember correctly, is our manager as well. So it kind of lined up that they were putting out an album, and we were putting out an album literally at the same time. So I was like, hey, let’s do this, and it kind of worked out, and it’s a good fit, I think, and a good package, to run around the States, and make something happen.
Last year you were supporting The Obsessed. Is it a different mindset for you starting something like this than that? Do you think about these shows differently, as your shows?
Yeah, I mean, those tours are awesome. Every time we’ve headlined, it’s always been kind of weird, because we never really matched up too well with like an actual huge package tour, and so I think this one lines up well in terms of styles, and so it’s a lot easier. It also puts a lot of pressure on the band to do a lot of shit to make stuff happen, because when you’re supporting a band that’s legendary like The Obsessed or Baroness, it’s just easy to be like, yeah, we’ll run a set, and whatever happens, happens. Subconsciously it’s not on us. But when you’re in charge of it, or it falls on you, how the show goes, it puts a different mindset to it, and when you have a good band like Restless Spirit co-headlining, it makes it that much more stronger, and you feel confident about it. So, I feel confident about it, going into it. Whereas before, I would definitely be afraid, like, “Oh, is this going to happen?” Like, “How’s this going to end up?” and that kind of thing.
I was okay looking at the back of the record. What is “Holla if You Hear Me Records?”
Okay, it’s weird. Yeah, so this album, so confusing. The album’s out on Metal Blade/BlackLight Media, but we’re licensing it for the first time from Metal Blade, so we’re licensing the album from them.
What does that mean?
You’re paying for them to put it out. They’re letting us use the songs and we’re responsible for putting it out ourselves. That is the nutshell of it, and so, in order to do that, you have to kind of form your own little corporation to do it. That’s what that is. It’s weird. It was kind of thrown upon us. We didn’t really know how to navigate that. I’m still trying to figure it out, too. I’m not extremely well-versed in this area, but the short of it is, they’re still putting out the album and doing the big machine, press, and backing us on that end, but in terms of putting it out, they’re going to do digital, but we’re responsible for everything else, and if we wanted to do anything else, it’s on us. We’d have to buy it from them. So we buy the song, buy the licensing from them to do it.
That’s why we don’t have CDs right now, because, quite frankly, it’s fucking expensive. And so we choose between CDs and vinyl, you know? I just chose vinyl because I think vinyl is the way to go. It’s just more tangible, it has more of an appeal factor, and people that even don’t listen to vinyl will buy it. But also, a lot of people in our genre buy vinyl. That’s what they do. But a lot of people hit me up now for CDs, so it’s just this weird thing again, where I’m just trying to figure out, like, what a lot of people – it’s not even just like a couple people, it’s been a lot — and so we’re going to be doing that as well, just not right now. So it’s kind of.. it’s kind of piecemealing this out.
What that also means is distribution is kind of rough too, because now that we have the vinyl out, it’s like we’re our own company. Now we’re looking for distribution in Europe, right now, and some other places to get it out there, because right now we’re just primarily using Bandcamp to put the vinyl out, which has been fine. It’s been very interesting on that, and using Bandcamp is kind of our stable to put it out. It’s kind of a weird thing. It’s almost like we’re back to square one with a huge, company pushing the PR and everything else, behind us with full support.
From here, will you guys put out your own records? Is that the way you’re going?
I don’t know, I don’t know. I don’t know what’s going to happen next. When it comes time, yeah, I’m definitely ready. We have to figure out what that’s going to look like. I mean, we could. It’s hard because the thing is, right now, what pushes albums, unfortunately, is the PR machine, the algorithm machine, getting it. How you get seen by a lot of people is word of mouth, and that word of mouth has to come from social media, and how do you make that happen? You know, and it’s just what it is. It’s like chasing the dragon to kind of push this out. So, yeah, we’ll figure it out, you know. We’ve done this for a while, so hopefully, I think we can navigate this one. And I mean, couple years from now, who the hell knows what the situation is going to be? You could literally — and I think I’ve seen other bands do this too — they just form their own record labels, and they just put them out themselves. You can do it, it’s easy. It’s just more about, do you have the time to put the back end together to do that work.
In addition to all the other work.
Exactly, exactly. I think that’s part of it too. Technology, as much as it is good, it can be hard, but for the positive end it can make musicians independent and successful at the same time.
Talk to me about being at Mad Oak. How much was that a homecoming for you?
Yeah, it’s great. And they just moved that studio to another right across the street into an awesome, awesome room the across the way. That we were one of the last bands to record at the previous one was awesome. It was good being there. It was just good vibes, and Benny’s super-talented, and he delivered. It just felt easy. You know, we went in there, we did our thing, we gave him the songs beforehand, and hearing, he knew what he was going to do, and so it was seamless at that point. But it’s just good vibes in general. We did record the basics at the new one, the new Mad Oak, and it’s awesome, super-sleek, homey, and super-fun, and got to see [Craig] Riggs [owner of Mad Oak, vocalist in Kind, Sasquatch drummer, etc.], of course, and just it was good to hang with homies and make it happen. Yeah, good mojo.
Was there was there something about the songs that made you want to do that, take that route with them?
No, I think was that thing where we were talking about before, about just everything kind of being hectic in life, and just the way everything is, and we just didn’t want to think too much in terms of traveling somewhere or doing something with somebody. We wanted something that was like a short hit and a sure thing, and just to be familiar in the family end of having Benny there, and being comfortable, making this happen without thinking about, is this guy going to get it right, what’s this guy’s work ethic, and that kind of thing.
He knocked it out of the park, and he was great, which psyched for him, he’s got amazing ears for that kind of stuff, and he’s also grown when we worked with him in 2009 or ’10. I mean, we’re in ’26 right now, so he’s also come into his own as an amazing engineer and super-talented. As we all know, and he’s done awesome albums for everybody in bands that we know in our genre. It just became a thing where it was just easy to make it all happen, and but also make it happen in a way that was super-fast and not laborious, so low drama. Yeah, no drama at all. So it was great.
What are your plans for the rest of the year? When are you going to Europe?
Yeah, it’s a good question. We’re looking for Europe right now, so hopefully we can, make that happen this year. I don’t know what the plans are for that yet, but hopefully something soon. If not the fall, hopefully the winter, we can make something happen, but no plans right now. I know we have this tour, and we have something coming up in January, and other than that, nothing yet after this on the books yet. I’m sure something will come up.
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GOZU remaining tour dates w/ Restless Spirit:
6/11/2026 Knucklehead – Los Angeles, CA
6/16/2026 The Lost Well – Austin, TX
6/17/2026 Siberia – New Orleans, LA
6/18/2026 Eastside Bowl – Nashville, TN
6/19/2026 Bogg’s Social & Supply – Atlanta, GA
6/20/2026 New Brookland Tavern – West Columbia, SC
6/21/2026 Chapel Of Bones – Raleigh, NC
6/23/2026 The Camel – Richmond, VA
6/24/2026 Metro Gallery – Baltimore, MD
6/25/2026 Gold Sounds – Brooklyn, NY
6/26/2026 Nikki Lopez – Philadelphia, PA
6/27/2026 Middle East Upstairs – Cambridge, MA




