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In Case You Missed it, Here’s What Joe Hasselvander Had to Say in Response to Bobby Liebling’s Interview

It seems only fair to give space to what former Pentagram drummer Joe Hasselvander had to say as regards Bobby Liebling‘s numerous assertions concerning him in the interview posted last week. Goes without saying that I’ve no background information one way or another on the relationship between Hasselvander and Liebling, the work they’ve done together in the past or what might be between them now. I just thought that since Hasselvander took the time to leave an unprompted comment on the interview (and flattered I was that Joe Hasselvander somehow found out about my site without my shouting it at him from across a room), I could take the time to post it and make sure it’s seen by the attendees who care to look. Hopefully that’s at least some of you.

On a side note, Hasselvander‘s new band The Hounds of Hasselvander recently released a 12″ EP, Further Torments of the SG, and he’ll be touring with his classic outfit Raven this year and doing a run of dates including Roadburn with Death Row. More info on his many happenings is at his MySpace.

Here’s his comment:

Excuse me before I barf! When Bobby Liebling tells you he doesn’t lie, then he’s only told you yet another one! He acts like he produced Sub-Basement and Review Your Choices when in fact he slept through 90 percent of the productions of those albums, leaving all the production to me. As far as his claim to riding in drug planes form South America, running coke for a Colombian cartel and owning houses, jewels and furs, that is absolute lying madness. He’s lived in his parents’ apartment all his life pontificating his greatness and has never earned a dime legally or illegally until joining Death Row and still he didn’t make much. He hasn’t written one song since 1974. He also is wildly incorrect in stating that half of my work on the Blue Cheer album was crap and was the reason for putting Paul Whaley’s tracks on to fix the mess. I ought to know, I was there! The real truth is that I stepped down for Paul so that he could tour again as the drummer for Blue Cheer as this is all that the man had in life! Paul is my friend and my mentor for drumming. It was a privilege to share the album with him. The record company decided that since he was back in the band, it would be best to include him on at least part of the album since Blue Cheer would be supporting this album with Paul as the drummer. The tracks Bobby has mentioned as being crumby are classic, well played and well written songs that were to be released at a future date. He has just said this to minimize my importance in that project! Just ask the remaining members, Paul or Duck!

Bobby had written some very iconic songs long ago that he keeps rehashing to this day and that’s fine. I don’t want to take away his past accomplishments which are valid, but to the fans I have to say they are getting a pack of lies from him about his so-called production efforts on past albums especially the ones I did alone with him for Black Widow! I virtually performed and produced them by myself! If it wasn’t for me supplying this guy with bands and songs and laborious work he would not be where he is today! Once again in this article, he falsely takes all the credit! Pentagram was put together by many very talented musicians who were forced to leave the band as they couldn’t put up with Bobby’s drugged out ego and all the lies and ridiculous selfish pats on the back to himself. This is why he is now saddled with young inexperienced yes men who have bought into his scam! The tales I heard at Hammer of Doom in Germany from their touring partners Trouble concerning him and his entourage were beyond a nightmare! He’s blown it with promoters over there because of his shenanigans! Why do I mention any of this? First off, I’m not “His” drummer! I have a very charmed career without his help and am still enjoying the fruits of my hard work! Secondly, he has wrongly slandered my efforts with my old band mates, Blue Cheer! If I have done so badly with them, why would I still be getting phone calls from their guitarist Duck MacDonald in reference to doing more projects in the future?

Sorry I had to deliver the truth on what could have been a good interview! But you must get the record straight!

Sincerely,
Joe Hasselvander

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5 Responses to “In Case You Missed it, Here’s What Joe Hasselvander Had to Say in Response to Bobby Liebling’s Interview”

  1. Ed says:

    I must admit after following both these guys careers for a long long time now, i do tend to believe Joe’s side of the story. I also have interviewed Joe and met Bobby a couple of times and Joe comes off as a much more honest person. No respect to Bobby, i think the dude is a legend and i love his vocals but i have always found him hard to believe.

  2. Paddy Pig says:

    to the dude who runs this site: if you, admittedly don’t know the whole background story between Joe and Bob, perhaps an interview with Mr. H is in order? couldn’t hurt, right? :)

    and check out the videos I did for Joe on youtube – search for user “babypengy”. :)

  3. richard kueht says:

    I’ve personally played guitar with Joe Hasselvander for 3 yrs. in Pentagram and a couple more in Overlord, not to mention we’ve been close friends since he was 16 yrs. old…His word is pretty damn golden in this krazy fukin’ world….I’d stand on his side anyday…. r. kueht

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