Dale Crover told Stern that he makes between $70,000 to $100,000 a year. The Melvins work their asses off though and always bring a ton of unique merch with them out on th road.

He used to get some Nirvana money, but that's dried up now. He also said the Incesticide royalties paid his rent thru the 90's.

http://www.marksfriggin.com/news11/5-9.htm#mon

yeah. i think buzzo's wife has a trinket business or something that keeps bacon on the table as well. i used to wonder if they owed a bunch of money from being on a major in the 90s. 70,000-100,000 is a little higher than i would have guessed, but it sounds about right

aside from college radio and california radio, melvins don't get a lot of airtime, that's for sure....so i wouldn't think any royalties would be coming from that direction. i wouldn't think record sales are that great either, they probably earn every dime they make touring just about

Is that net or gross figures? I'm thinking probably gross, but you never know. When those guys are in the studio and out touring though, when you factor in what you make per hour (a drive to the next gig is still working in some capacity, because you can't be out generally doing leisure stuff, as is hanging around the venue before and after the gig, talking with other bands and fans and whatnot), it would be interesting to see what Crover would actually make per hour, when he's not at home or anywhere else doing something non-musical. It would be even more interesting that once you factored in the time for whatever he'd write at home coupled with Melvins practices and whatnot....alot of that is fun, but it's still all a part of the job, too. You can't tour or record a new album without practicing alot first, and to even get to the point where you've even seen a dime off of any new material (be that even live at a gig), you still have to put in all those hours that would otherwise be tons of overtime at a regular job. Musicians don't get paid overtime.....when they're in the studio for 14 hours a day, no one gives 'em time and a half, the musicians themselves just chalk that up to getting the job done.

All that would bring down the 70-100 grand total quite significantly with intangibles (the shit you do that no one pays you for), and even more significantly if the 70-100 grand wasn't net profits, either. The government wants their share too.

I took it as the money Dale takes home at the end of the day, or what is reported on his tax return. The cost of touring, the bus, Tim Moss, etc... would go against the business that is The Melvins. I would imagine the two younger guys get a smaller cut than that.

After thinking about this some more, I can understand why he quit the band right after the record was done or why someone quits something in general right when it seems they've finally achieved it.

It's because achieving a fantasy essentially kills it, and the actual experience is a crude substitute for the one you had imagined. I don't know much about him or the band outside of what he has posted here, but I'd think it's a safe bet that having a band that played the kind of music he wanted, was marginally successful, and toured was a dream of his. I'd also wager that when he finally got there, it wasn't at all like he'd imagined it or as he'd wanted it to be. Everyone bashes the celebrities who get famous and are still miserable, and I understand why. There are few things as annoying as hearing someone with massive amounts of privilege try to tell a sob story. One the other hand, I'm certain being famous is not like we imagine it to be.

I think that's what happened with Cobain. He dreamed all his life of being a rock star, but when he got there he hated it...it wasn't at all what he wanted it to be. The death of that dream was so awful he decided death would be preferable, sadly.

haha, fucking classic, thanks for that.

his laugh is insane

so now dinger is a celebrity?

Not at all. His personal tragedy occurred on a much smaller scale. The example of celebrities was just an illustration.

Haven't you ever received something you've always wanted, only to feel terrible afterward? Or the confusion that comes with needing a new dream to chase, that what you'd devoted so much time to, the thing that justified so many of your actions is no longer relevant?

Actually, to use a personal example I can say I felt that way about getting my BA and finishing college. Everything was supposed to be better after that. I had my admission ticked to the middle class in hand, but it was terrible. I'd sunk a massive amount of time and effort into something that seemed worthless when I finally got there. I can remember being so distraught by the time it happened the graduation ceremony seemed like a chore.

i got what you are saying. like i said all along the only problem i have with the guy is how he called out the bass player earlier in the thread

I'm not particularly anti-Andy in all this. If he wants to quit, he can quit. If he wants to either be or pretend to be crazy for attention, nobody's stopping him. That whole talking shit about the bass player thing and the "hey, at least you recorded all your own parts this time," was a dick move though. Not necessary.

Please, allow me to help in ending this thread...

KYUSS!!!!

Ryno fucking WINS the thread.

Gentlemen Broncos was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Yeah, you know, that's probably the best thing anyone's said in this whole thread.
There was a band around here that I won't name that had achieved some really good acclaim and status in the hardcore scene (we're talking about basement shows, putting out vinyl, toured Europe, etc), and I guess that they'd hit a ceiling and had done everything that they'd set out to do. The bass player (the guy who ran their label and started the band) had refused to play the band's last show, and they had to find someone else. I didn't actually ask him why he refused to play the show, but sometimes you get so fed up with the whole situation (bandmates, financial status, etc) that it becomes hard to walk away with any sort of positive memories. Alot of bands break up under really bad circumstances, too.

There's other things like dealing with shitty promoters and club owners that won't pay you and whatnot. THAT really kills it. There's also a bunch of things that happen when you try to transition to other audiences and bigger audiences, when you're not just playing to the converts--people throwing shit and booing you off the stage and whatnot. I've seen some really, really morale killing shows for bands. When maybe things in the band aren't as good as they once were--your initial brotherhood--those types of things really test you as a band.

It's time to let this topic sink. It's getting moldy. I've blocked dingerberry on both boards because I'm done giving him the attention he's craving. He says he wants to be left alone. I'm going to oblige his request. Goodbye, Andy Beresky.

In time, Rötund, the butthurt will fade.

Listen to him. JK is the Master Of Butthurt.

BAAAM!!!

Just relax and breathe. Works every time.

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Listen to him. JK27 knows what he's talking about.

I hear he uses a football as a buttplug. Fucking yogis...

A fucking football would be a little more than "butthurt", wouldn't you think? Maybe another term needs to be coined there....

Wow, what a nasty little shit you are. Douche who strokes himself over the new Mastodoncorp. now wishing death on others. What an inner life you must have.



Can't be. Jay-O was pretty hilarious ball of waaaahhh at times, but I don't recall him wishing death on anyone. And the guy was/is a tr00 doom purist, he wouldn't go near something like nu-Mastodon.