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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:41 pm 
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Ewwww, let's get mad over commonly used decriptors/nomenclature! I could have called them "Girlfriend Metal" and it would have been just as (or more) applicable.

Go ahead and enjoy your corny band.

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:20 pm 
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Any thoughts on this?



I don't hate it, but I'm not sitting down to write my mom a letter about it, either.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:40 pm 
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Not too impressed with it at all. Imagine this is one I won't be buying, not even a guarantee I'd listen in full if its available via a stream.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:09 pm 

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I couldn't even finish the song. Boring would be a compliment. Attempt to "clean" vocals added to a dull guitar line. This is terrible, no way around it. Wow, have they really regressed. More so than Mastodon, apparently.

This is the same band that wrote the song "Grad"???? WTF?

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:25 pm 
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Nice poppy hook to it, which can be either good or bad, depending on what you're looking for. Personally, I didn't mind it at all, but a song like that shouldn't seem like it's longer than it is. I'm with Million Man on this one.

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:56 pm 

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Some of you are crazy! This is the kind of song and band that can save Stoner Rock. The singer can actually sing rather than grunt and scream, the songwriting is melodic and yet really original. They aren't trying to copy anybody like so many of the bland Stoner Rock bands that are praised. And they don't sound like amateurs who can't play their instruments and have all kinds of feedback and terrible noisy production values that so many of the bands on here are praised for like Electric Wizard.

No one outside of a little elitist group wants to hear that kind of junk, it isn't even music. They want to hear real songwriting and real musicianship that is made to sound good to the ears! This is the kind of a band that my friends and I would go out to see and have a good time listening to but I suppose a lot of people are lonely and want to feel superior and just aren't into that for selfish reasons.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:00 pm 
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Stoner rock don't need savin.'


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:14 pm 

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I agree as long as their are real bands like this and Torche who are willing to not only have an original sound but to get away from all the screaming and noise bullshit. Baroness is making the future of real Stoner Rock.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:18 pm 
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Real stoner rock don't need no future.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:24 pm 
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I think on their next headlining tour the audience won't be half teenagers and half beard rockers but 75% teens, 25% who knows. And I think they'll be playing bigger venues.

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:51 pm 
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I'll throw both Mehstedon (post-Leviathan) and Baromehs under the bus. And that dude's artwork nearly ruins every good album it gets near (USX, etc.). Remember when it was on every other release in the genre? Just spray it all over everyone, why don't you?



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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:14 pm 
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Some of that track posted above makes me think of post-SFtD queens...but without the smoothness and laid-back swagger in the vocals, which pushes it from "okay" to "boring" for me.

The guitars do some interesting shit but still manage to come off as flat to me...too bad, I was hoping for better with this release...I will still give it a full listen front to back before I pass judgment though.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:38 pm 
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I dig it. Also, this is just one song off of a double album (20 songs, I believe), and I'll bet you that not every song sounds like this. From what I've read this album is all over the place musically, so I bet there are heavier songs as well as stuff that's even poppier than this. Will be picking it up the day it comes out for sure.

Also, I dig "Blue Record".

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:51 pm 
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I thought it was a little corny, but it did make me interested in how this works as a double album...and I think I may know. This is obviously the big catchy sounding "single", but they can't do that for seventy minutes. There's got to be ups and downs...something that I will testify is missing from a lot of modern rock. I think that's the real problem, not so much singers who can't sing or songs that aren't catchy and bombastic...it's a lack of restraint. Nobody knows or cares to dial it down. How many albums have you heard recently that just storm from front to back, everything cranked to 11? Most of them.

Partly I blame the public. The bands work the songs out live, and the crowd gets bored if it isn't getting sonically rammed up the ass repeatedly. Me, I like a little tender love.

The bottom line is, Baroness sounds like they just spliced their DNA with the band Thrice. Which to me is not that bad, because I happen to like Thrice. But to everyone else, it's fucking poison. I'll probably get the album because I have that fondness for deep, atmospheric yet poppy post hardcore, borderline goop. I like the Thrice album "Vheissu", and this just reminded me greatly of that.

I totally understand why people are hating this. I don't think it's unwarranted, given the changes from the Red album. Same with Torche from the first one, or Mastodon. I don't think any of them necessarily changed for the better. But it's like if I had a blue house and I came home and somebody had painted it green. I would be a little disturbed, but I'd probably say "you know what, I also like green".

And that's one to grow on!


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:09 am 
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i like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:16 am 

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Vocals are really, really good and they practically carry the whole song. I always wanted Baroness to have more clean vocals because they do it great. No, this is not another "Red Album", and I do miss the complexity and progressiveness of it, but it's still good. Much, much better than "Curl of the Turd". We still have to hear other songs though...


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:07 am 

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that is one big ass shrimp

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:11 am 

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MILLION MAN wrote:
Any thoughts on this?



I don't hate it, but I'm not sitting down to write my mom a letter about it, either.

that might be the best nickleback song that ive ever heard

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:46 am 

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Congleton's production works for a band like Tombs, but not so much for a band like Baroness...like most other Baroness tunes, this song is infinitely better live.

Here are some initial thoughts on the album from music writer Adrien Begrand:

I’ve been listening to Yellow & Green for the past few weeks, and it’s already sounding like one of the best albums of 2012. Interestingly, though, “Take My Bones Away” is about as “metal” as the albums gets, as the Savannah, Georgia band expands their musical palette a great deal more than on 2007’s Red Album and 2009’s Blue Record. The “Yellow” half explores a broader range of rock music, from indie, to post punk, to prog, to classic rock, with vocal melodies driving the songs rather than riffs, while “Green” is a much more stripped-down rock record along the lines of Crazy Horse and, to a lesser extent, Built to Spill, guitarist John Baizley’s singing much more prominent, not to mention improved. Those hoping for a return to the heavier sounds of Baroness’s First and Second EPs will be disappointed, but anyone who likes good, guitar-driven rock will love this eclectic, ambitious record.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:22 pm 

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I like Baroness, including much of The Blue Album, but I just listened to a clip of "Take My Bones Away" and it sounded like a Nickleback b-side. That's not hyperbole. I thought it was a prank or mistake.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:29 pm 

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Oh, shit. Million Man beat me to it. I guess I should stop ignoring his posts.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:59 pm 
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I like Baroness, including much of The Blue Album, but I just listened to a clip of "Take My Bones Away" and it sounded like a Nickleback b-side.


I don't think the song's Nickelback bad. It actually more reminded me of Fireball Ministry or somethin' -- beard rock guitar tones meets active rock melodies. The chorus is pretty cool, with the haronies and such. The song just doesn't really go anywhere. And the production doesn't really work for that sound (thought the direct guitars were cool when they first did it on Blue, but they're starting to drive me nuts).

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“Take My Bones Away” is about as “metal” as the albums gets... The “Yellow” half explores a broader range of rock music, from indie, to post punk, to prog, to classic rock, with vocal melodies driving the songs rather than riffs, while “Green” is a much more stripped-down rock record along the lines of Crazy Horse and, to a lesser extent, Built to Spill... Those hoping for a return to the heavier sounds of Baroness’s First and Second EPs will be disappointed, but anyone who likes good, guitar-driven rock will love this eclectic, ambitious record.


So we should all probably ignore this record then? I mean I'd hate to pigeonhole an artist into doing a very specific genre for his/her entire life, but if you're aching to unleash your inner Doug Martsch can't you do it with a side project or solo album?

When you form a band, like it or not you are creating a brand. If you are touring and making records that you charge people money for, you are engaging in commerce. So while I understand completely the sanctity of"artistic integrity" -- or at least that most artists need to convince themselves they have some in order to justify doing what they love for money -- when you change the brand you created, you run the risk of losing the fans who gave you a career in the first place. And you can't point a finger at THEM for losing interest. You sold them Pepsi, then switched it to Fresca on the third refill.


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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:10 pm 
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MILLION MAN wrote:
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I like Baroness, including much of The Blue Album, but I just listened to a clip of "Take My Bones Away" and it sounded like a Nickleback b-side.


I don't think the song's Nickelback bad. It actually more reminded me of Fireball Ministry or somethin' -- beard rock guitar tones meets active rock melodies. The chorus is pretty cool, with the haronies and such. The song just doesn't really go anywhere. And the production doesn't really work for that sound (thought the direct guitars were cool when they first did it on Blue, but they're starting to drive me nuts).

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“Take My Bones Away” is about as “metal” as the albums gets... The “Yellow” half explores a broader range of rock music, from indie, to post punk, to prog, to classic rock, with vocal melodies driving the songs rather than riffs, while “Green” is a much more stripped-down rock record along the lines of Crazy Horse and, to a lesser extent, Built to Spill... Those hoping for a return to the heavier sounds of Baroness’s First and Second EPs will be disappointed, but anyone who likes good, guitar-driven rock will love this eclectic, ambitious record.


So we should all probably ignore this record then? I mean I'd hate to pigeonhole an artist into doing a very specific genre for his/her entire life, but if you're aching to unleash your inner Doug Martsch can't you do it with a side project or solo album?

When you form a band, like it or not you are creating a brand. If you are touring and making records that you charge people money for, you are engaging in commerce. So while I understand completely the sanctity of"artistic integrity" -- or at least that most artists need to convince themselves they have some in order to justify doing what they love for money -- when you change the brand you created, you run the risk of losing the fans who gave you a career in the first place. And you can't point a finger at THEM for losing interest. You sold them Pepsi, then switched it to Fresca on the third refill.


Quite.

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:44 pm 
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I don't know, I listened to it again and I like it. Maybe I like Nickleback and don't know it!

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 Post subject: Re: Baroness Yellow & Green
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:42 pm 
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Wow. I mean, damn. I put off listening to this for a while after reading the responses to it. I really tried to have an opened mind tonight while I finally gave it a whirl. Well, it's pretty? It's melodic. It's not crap...just not my cup of tea anymore. After reading the quote about this being the most "metal" song on the album, well, that was just a dull knife in my gut feeling. I was really looking forward to this too. I'll still, at least, preview the entire thing upon release. But, I'm sure not going to try to force myself to like it. There's too much stuff out there right now that really tickles my pickle. Can't blame them for trying to make a buck. I'll always appreciate the music they've released prior. But, man, I just can't get into this. I almost wish bands would try to make $ first, and then get evil! Screw over the mainstream instead! Like if Nickelback started playing thrash metal, or apocalyptic doom (ha!), and the singer stopped dying his hair and putting in in rollers every morning! And quit perfectly trimming his cute little goatee! And stopped bleaching his anus! Nah, I probably still wouldn't listen to them. So much for that idea???


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