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 Post subject: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:11 pm 

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lol jk

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:13 pm 

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Fucker. I am in mourning.


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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:30 pm 
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I'll be pretty put off by this when the World Series is over. Although I still have hockey. Man cannot live on football alone, obviously.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:55 pm 

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Its starting to look more and more that there won't be a season this year. If they do settle this thing in the next few days then you know the players got a shitty deal, and you know there is no way that is happening. Plus, another year of the Heat not winning a title is a good thing.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:35 pm 

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On the way to Occupy LA last Sat, I jumped off the bus early and occupied the outside part of Staples Center and flipped them the bird. I rate my protest as effective as OWS is likely to be against Wall Street, but it felt good. Fuck David Stern, I want my Dwight Howard deal and a decade more of Laker dominance and I want it now.


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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:58 am 
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whoshotthefrog wrote:
Plus, another year of the Heat not winning a title is a good thing.


Amen.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Now this is getting interesting.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/14/players-vote-to-reject-offer-disband-union-season-likely-doomed/#comments


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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:07 pm 

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The MSG channel replaying '94 Finals games and NBA 2K12 have done a lot to fill the basketball void, although 2K12 won't see an updated roster now. I don't really have sympathy for either side in this, but that really sucks.

I guess it's finally time to try and bring myself to care about college basketball.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:29 am 
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Everything I'm reading portrays this as the player's union stepping on their collective dick in a big way.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:11 am 
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Bullio wrote:
I guess it's finally time to try and bring myself to care about college basketball.


I've got WSU/Gonzaga on the tube right now. College basketball is so much more fun than the NBA.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:19 pm 

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college is fixed, too. come on and get over yourself. so the owners are suggesting the players take a pay cut so the teams won't be broken up, not going to happen. so the teams are being broken up to keep the hogs from doubling the salary cap, because why is there a salary cap if they can all break it and be like the Yankees? there's only a few perennial teams, and they need to share the wealth to these other important cities, which means Cleveland is going to get a superstar back because there won't be anymore 'Big 3's' unless they're all old and playing for low salaries. paycut, no. breakup teams, yes. get over it. don't bother me, unless I'm watching tv while laying on my left side, I have to lay on my right side to see straight. like right now, my head tilted down some there's 2 computer screens one on top of the other. so I tilt back, correct.


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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:47 am 

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Figured I might as well bump this since the unofficial deal is now official. Commencing with the discussion on topics like the 3-way Lakers/Rockets/Hornets trade not receiving NBA approval.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:17 am 

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Here is a copy of an email Dan Gilbert sent to David Stern asking for the Chris Paul trade to vetoed. I completely agree with him on this. It's ridiculous that these prima donnas are dictating where they want to play. This is a huge reason why the NBA is losing in popularity and a huge chunk of their fanbase.




Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.


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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:41 am 

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yeah but paul wants to play for the knicks not the lakers. i think he would settle for the lakers. its not like chris paul is trying to lebron his way out of new orleans because he even says that he loves new orleans. my problem with the nba is the superstars gathering on the same teams. magic didnt recruit jordan and bird to play for the lakers. he beat jordan and bird. when these superstars see the teams that are winning championships they are seeing the scrub teams win.maybe they feel like if they can get on the same team then they can demolish the scrub teams but that didnt work out all that well in the finals last year. these guys are nba ballerz and shotcallerz though so you cant expect them to be all that smart about what they are doing

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:10 pm 
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As much as I hate the Lakers and don't want them to get CP3, this deal getting vetoed is all sorts of bullshit in my opinion. LA played by the rules of the game and made a trade that all 3 teams directly involved consented to. Sucks that LA managed to play this to their advantage as well as they did, but they did, and they did so without breaking any rules. I don't see how you could punish LA for doing nothing wrong but executing such a beautiful trade?

I agree that players being able force their teams hand to trading them to certain teams is TERRIBLE for the game and something needs to be done. The NBA needs to fix the system to prevent this kind of thing. Wasn't there talk about some type of Carmelo Rule during CBA negotiations in hopes of addressing this and putting a stop to it that was ultimately ignored? If so, seems like the owners share some responsibility in this situation as they had the opportunity to address and and didn't. Can't go crying now, you made your bed so you get to now sleep in it.


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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:19 pm 

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that is exactly what the hornets are trying to avoid. they dont want a repeat of carmelo so they are trying to get their roster set. they are getting kevin martin luis scolia and goran dragic or whatever his name is. that is 3 very good very solid players that will start and can make an allstar team. if paul were trying to dictate wher ehe wanted to go then he would say trade me to the knicks and noone else.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:51 pm 

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Demon Lung wrote:
if paul were trying to dictate wher ehe wanted to go then he would say trade me to the knicks and noone else.
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That's exactly what he is doing. He is telling the Hornets who he wants to play for, The Hornets had a great deal with the Celtics(Rondo, Green and 2 1st rd picks) that they couldn't pull off because Paul said he wouldn't sign an extension. He said he would only sign an extension with the Knicks, Lakers, or the Magic(only if Howard stayed). How is that not dictating where he wants to go?

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:52 pm 

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whoshotthefrog wrote:
Demon Lung wrote:
if paul were trying to dictate wher ehe wanted to go then he would say trade me to the knicks and noone else.
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That's exactly what he is doing. He is telling the Hornets who he wants to play for, The Hornets had a great deal with the Celtics(Rondo, Green and 2 1st rd picks) that they couldn't pull off because Paul said he wouldn't sign an extension. He said he would only sign an extension with the Knicks, Lakers, or the Magic(only if Howard stayed). How is that not dictating where he wants to go?

i didnt hear anything about the lakers or magic. i only heard knicks

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:54 pm 
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Danny Granger tweeted Thursday night, "Due to the sabotaging of the LA/NO trade by David Stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete brethren Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last name to 'Stern's Bi#&h'"
While it's easy to make jokes about this, there are rumblings that some players may sit out of training camps in protest of this most recent move. Those impulses may subside when players look at the ramifications of sitting out, but there are also legally compliant ways to exercise their distaste. Until Stern gets out in front of this issue, if he can, things continue to spiral out of control for a leaderless NBA.


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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:54 pm 

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Demon Lung wrote:
whoshotthefrog wrote:
Demon Lung wrote:
if paul were trying to dictate wher ehe wanted to go then he would say trade me to the knicks and noone else.
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That's exactly what he is doing. He is telling the Hornets who he wants to play for, The Hornets had a great deal with the Celtics(Rondo, Green and 2 1st rd picks) that they couldn't pull off because Paul said he wouldn't sign an extension. He said he would only sign an extension with the Knicks, Lakers, or the Magic(only if Howard stayed). How is that not dictating where he wants to go?

i didnt hear anything about the lakers or magic. i only heard knicks



You need to pay more attention then.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:59 pm 

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lebron james told chris paul that he was going to play in ny with carmelo and amare as soon as amare signed that contract. lebron james runs the nba. and that is what the problem with the nba is.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:36 pm 

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oh shit. brandon roy retired

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:40 pm 

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Two degenerative knees and only 27 years old.

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:42 pm 

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its a shame too because he was clutch

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 Post subject: Re: NBA 2011-2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:46 pm 

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I guess I don't understand how dictating what team you'll re-sign with if traded is wrong? All the Hornets have to do is honor the contract they signed with Paul, then renegotiate it when it's over to keep him. It's NO's choice to trade him. Now if Paul declares he'll holdout unless traded, that's another situation. But a player chooses where they want to play in free agency, so re-signing choices don't seem any different to me.


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