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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:51 pm 

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Mr Neutron wrote:
From what I've heard as well, that entire album's drum tracks are nothing but tape splices.
Not, however, because he hits so hard, but because he couldn't play most of the signature changes, or in the case of the final song.... the tempo.


Yeah, I've also heard that one of the tricks on Puppets (perhaps others) was speeding up the tape when it was time to final track the other instruments. I can provide absolutely no proof of this, just stuff I've read on different recording forums.


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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:51 pm 

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I can't believe I watched all of that.


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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:08 pm 

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Bongzilla wrote:
"Imagine if they'd had Pro Tools back then....."

AJFA was recorded using today's Pro-Toolsian "cut and paste" style, but with engineers and 2-inch tape splicing. Those dudes earned their money! I wonder how many feet of 2" ended up on the floor and how many reels it took..
Our ears are "calibrated" for lack of a better term to today's production values, which makes AJFA's flaws stand out. It's like a rhythm guitar & drum track demo with guitar harmonies, leads and vocals clearly overdubbed later (and sloppily...awkward fade ins-outs, drum track leakage, etc.)

I still love that record though


Yeah, splicing that all together by hand would have taken tons of skill....and time. I'd always done editing in the digital domain, but I can definetely respect the time and talent that it takes to make a record like that.


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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:09 pm 

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http://www.fwrproduction.com/FWR_Produktion/Notes_2.html#15

Flemming Rasmussen posted a bunch of notes from the sessions with some photos as well.

Cool video explaining just how 'intense' tracking Lars could be....

http://youtu.be/IJRyY5cyLts

read: an engineer's nightmare.


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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:49 pm 

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Clay wrote:
http://www.fwrproduction.com/FWR_Produktion/Notes_2.html#15

Flemming Rasmussen posted a bunch of notes from the sessions with some photos as well.

Cool video explaining just how 'intense' tracking Lars could be....

http://youtu.be/IJRyY5cyLts

read: an engineer's nightmare.


I know that Lars likes to hit hard, but if you're changing the drum skins every second or third take, wouldn't the more efficient thing be to hit less hard and be able to actually make it through the whole song (either because of the skins or because you're otherwise wiped out)?


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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:07 pm 

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I'm not going to talk too much shit about Lars since he is probably a much better drummer than me but wearing out multiple drum heads while tracking one song is kind of asinine. It's also the calling card of an amateur drummer that isn't releasing the stick upon impact, just pouding it into the drum without rebound.

I mean, Bonham hit harder than anyone and there are no stories floating around about what a hassle it was to track him.

It's also the consensus from engineers and soundmen that allegedly Lars isn't a heavy hitter. In fact, quite the opposite.

The dented head 'intensity' is probably just spin for all the multiple takes of the sections he had to play over and over to get it right. But hey, at the end of it all, whatever works.


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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:44 pm 

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Clay, I'll let you know what I think in a few weeks.
I will be seeing these guys play on the 31st in SF.
It will be the first time I see them in about...twenty years? Have not seen them with Robert, never saw them with Jason. It's free so I am looking forward to it.

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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:00 pm 

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Clay wrote:
I'm not going to talk too much shit about Lars since he is probably a much better drummer than me but wearing out multiple drum heads while tracking one song is kind of asinine. It's also the calling card of an amateur drummer that isn't releasing the stick upon impact, just pouding it into the drum without rebound.

I mean, Bonham hit harder than anyone and there are no stories floating around about what a hassle it was to track him.

It's also the consensus from engineers and soundmen that allegedly Lars isn't a heavy hitter. In fact, quite the opposite.

The dented head 'intensity' is probably just spin for all the multiple takes of the sections he had to play over and over to get it right. But hey, at the end of it all, whatever works.


Yeah, i've worked with lots of drummers that hit plenty hard, but they didn't have to change skins for a long time. It's in the wrist, too--if you just hit straight out with no wrist movement, that's really not the proper way to do it.

Lars is plenty good as a drummer, but as far as drummers in major bands go, he's probably one of the less inventive ones that I can think of. Most of the stuff kinda has this heavy "oompa oompa oompa" near polka beat. Bonham was a pounder, but also had alot of flavour and accents on hi-hat, bass drum and cymbals....like "Fool In The Rain".


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 Post subject: Re: the Lars Ulrich exclusive signature snare drum
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:31 pm 

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evening all

been lurking here for a while, had to register to post when i discovered (as i just did) that if one googles for "lars ulrich exclusive signature snare drum", this thread is the first result!

(i wasn't looking for an actual snare drum, i was looking for this thread having seen it the first time around)

also... lars does NOT hit hard. in fact he's probably the weakest metal drummer i can think of. he plays like a child. even average rock guys hit harder than he does. he also keeps time like an egg rolling downhill...

been watching pantera live vids all night. now THERE'S a drummer \m/


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