Karl Hungus wrote:
I'm never going to question Bellichick signing questionable character guys..he must have had a sit down with the guy, letting him know, what good is a blockbuster contract if no one wants the player on their team. I'm pretty sure Bill knows how to tap into this guy's abilities. History tells me he can, and he's a highly respected coach in out generation. Not worried. I dont have to like his character...Ive come to hate a lot of players in all professional sports throughout the years, and there are always a few that end up with either the Pats, B's, Sox, that I love to have on my team if they play like they are capable of. Haynesworth is not an exception.
Ocho is an unfocused player and was playing on a poorly run franchise. From the ownership down, Cincinnati has always been a 3rd tier team that only gets up for divisional matchups on occasion. Housh and Ocho could have been HOF receivers with health and something resembling a quarterback throwing to them. Sure Ocho is past his prime, but appears in shape and has great routes/hands. For a 5th rounder? No brainer.
I'll throw my darkhorse out there now..Barring injury..I like Tampa Bay's defense, Blount in the backfield and Williams/Freeman combo makes for some good football, and can matchup with the Saints and Falcons pretty well in the division. They come out of there with a decent divisional record, they could be a wildcard monster.
10 million for Holmes is a joke. I know you cant low ball him, on his way to free angency but you have to look at the offense he's in, and has been in. He's a 700-800 yard receiver and a complimentary type of 2-3 rd level receiver imo. Never saw this guy obv how the Jets (and some of you see him). He's not a beast...at all
There has to be levels of ability..sure he's fast, decent hands and average size but I dont think "Sanchez to anyone" is going to be echoing throughout the stadium loudspeakers anytime soon. Andre Johnson, Mike Williams, Steve Johnson, Hixon, Nicks, Manningham, Boldin, Fitzgerald to name a few off the top of my head..are beasts. Then you put your speed burners, that get along on pure speed/matchups, not necessarily size, like Mike Wallace, Steve Smith, Deshean Jackson, etc etc....not until then we start talking the next level guys where I think Holmes comes in. 10 million doesnt fit the bill. At all.
holmes is a much better receiver than manningham. everyone else you mentioned i agree with. but manningham? have you actually seen this guy "play"